1 00:00:04,950 --> 00:00:02,629 joining me here on console is quincy 2 00:00:06,950 --> 00:00:04,960 harp who is the mission designer for the 3 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:06,960 htv activities thanks for joining us 4 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:08,880 quincy ah thanks for having me here so 5 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:10,480 first of all i think this is the first 6 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:12,480 time i've heard of a mission designer it 7 00:00:15,669 --> 00:00:14,080 sounds very glamorous can you explain to 8 00:00:17,670 --> 00:00:15,679 us just a little bit about what that job 9 00:00:19,510 --> 00:00:17,680 entails sure thing well in robotics 10 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:19,520 we've kind of got uh two kind of 11 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:21,439 positions we've got our lead robotics 12 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:23,760 officer and his primary job is to 13 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:25,119 integrate with the rest of the team and 14 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:26,400 for this mission his name is john 15 00:00:30,470 --> 00:00:28,720 bellingham he's actually canadian and he 16 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:30,480 works with us through this canadian 17 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:33,120 space agency and my job is the mission 18 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:35,280 designer and in that position we 19 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:36,559 basically look at the requirements of 20 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:38,719 where hardware comes up or where entire 21 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:40,640 vehicles come up and where they need to 22 00:00:45,030 --> 00:00:42,480 be installed and we design the path in 23 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:45,040 between those two those two spots and 24 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:46,320 you were explaining to me this this 25 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:48,559 process started at least a year ago the 26 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,920 two of you were working together on this 27 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:51,600 uh missions typically start being 28 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:53,199 planned about a year ahead i was not 29 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:54,960 assigned to this one until about eight 30 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:57,120 months ago but typically there's about a 31 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:58,879 year-long process with looking at the 32 00:01:02,709 --> 00:01:00,399 information and getting ready to go and 33 00:01:04,630 --> 00:01:02,719 going forward you hit the ground running 34 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:04,640 very quickly very quickly and how how 35 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:06,159 big of a team does it take to support 36 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:08,159 these types of activities uh it varies 37 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:09,760 from time to time uh typically you'll 38 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:11,520 have about a three-person team that 39 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:13,040 follows the entire mission the whole way 40 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:14,320 through 41 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:16,159 but when it comes down to the actual 42 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:18,240 execution you have 43 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:19,680 largely as many people as you need 44 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:21,439 whether it's the three people that are 45 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:23,439 on console actually executing or the 46 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,720 next three people that are coming on 47 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:26,400 after that team 48 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:28,479 so bring us up to speed a lot's gone on 49 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:29,920 everything's gone really smoothly but 50 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:31,439 can you talk to us a little bit about 51 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:33,119 especially the things that occurred over 52 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,439 the weekend sure thing it's been a great 53 00:01:39,830 --> 00:01:37,360 last weekend so far 54 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:39,840 we actually captured the vehicle on a 55 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:41,920 friday the crew used the space station 56 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:44,320 robotic arm or cannon arm 2 to capture 57 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:45,680 the vehicle and 58 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:47,360 then from that point on the ground took 59 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:48,960 control of it in order to help save the 60 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:50,880 crew time give them their time back and 61 00:01:55,109 --> 00:01:53,200 we were able to maneuver the htv vehicle 62 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:55,119 all the way to its install location and 63 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:57,119 install it thereby giving the crew back 64 00:02:00,789 --> 00:01:59,119 all the time that they needed 65 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:00,799 after that was completed we had kind of 66 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:02,399 one day off before we came back on 67 00:02:06,469 --> 00:02:05,200 yesterday sunday and then continued on 68 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:06,479 with a lot of our ground commanded 69 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:09,200 activities to extract the exposed pallet 70 00:02:14,309 --> 00:02:11,599 from the htv and it's coming up carrying 71 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:14,319 a couple different experiments for us as 72 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:16,800 well as a couple different replacement 73 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:18,640 pieces of hardware for the space station 74 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:21,440 we extracted that then we maneuvered it 75 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:23,840 to position handed off to the japanese 76 00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:25,599 robotic arm which they also controlled 77 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:27,599 from the ground and from that point they 78 00:02:31,830 --> 00:02:29,760 took it and installed it on their back 79 00:02:33,509 --> 00:02:31,840 porch kind of their exposed facility is 80 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:33,519 what it's actually called and once it 81 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:34,560 was there 82 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,640 it's ready for its transfers now 83 00:02:39,670 --> 00:02:38,560 so this was a lot of teamwork with the 84 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:39,680 crew 85 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:41,120 a lot of things that you guys were 86 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:43,280 taking versus parts that you know they 87 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:44,640 were picking up and operating from the 88 00:02:47,589 --> 00:02:45,840 space station 89 00:02:48,949 --> 00:02:47,599 so it really exemplifies kind of the 90 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:48,959 ultimate teamwork if you will ground 91 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,879 control teams and honorable members 92 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:52,720 absolutely and very international too 93 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:55,120 we've got u.s and european crew members 94 00:03:00,390 --> 00:02:57,920 on orbit executing steps as well as both 95 00:03:02,149 --> 00:03:00,400 canadian and american robotics experts 96 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:02,159 executing their steps and japanese 97 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:03,120 experts 98 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:04,879 executing their steps so it's truly 99 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:06,720 showing the international space station 100 00:03:09,110 --> 00:03:07,519 so 101 00:03:11,270 --> 00:03:09,120 everything that's that happened starting 102 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:11,280 friday and over the weekend uh sounds 103 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:13,120 really critical but you were telling me 104 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:14,400 that really you guys have some of your 105 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:16,239 biggest milestones are yet to come 106 00:03:20,229 --> 00:03:18,480 absolutely a lot of the dynamic parts 107 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:20,239 happen on friday but when it comes to a 108 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:22,560 lot of the the down and dirty kind of uh 109 00:03:25,589 --> 00:03:24,080 ground control work a lot of that's 110 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:25,599 coming up in about two weeks where we're 111 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:28,720 going to use again canadarm2 along with 112 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:31,040 dexter the small dexterous robot that we 113 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:33,440 have to transfer those 114 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:34,959 pieces of hardware that came up on that 115 00:03:38,309 --> 00:03:36,480 exposed pallet and get those to their 116 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:38,319 final locations on the space station 117 00:03:42,070 --> 00:03:40,239 that's going to take about six days of 118 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:42,080 ground control operations 119 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:43,760 but we're looking forward to that it's a 120 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:45,360 significant amount of work to do but we 121 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:47,440 expect it to go well so i'm curious 122 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:48,959 what's been 123 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:50,480 which of all these activities is the 124 00:03:54,789 --> 00:03:52,400 most challenging 125 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:54,799 uh typically the capture and the release 126 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:57,040 of htv itself is the most challenging 127 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:59,040 just because you've got two vehicles 128 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:01,439 flying in space at extreme amounts of 129 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:02,480 speed 130 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:04,000 and they've got to come together you've 131 00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:05,599 got a lot of integration that has to go 132 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:07,120 on with the entire team to make sure 133 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:09,599 that those things turn out well 134 00:04:14,390 --> 00:04:12,400 while robotically those are complex 135 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:14,400 probably the most complex for us is 136 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:15,840 those upcoming operations we have in 137 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:16,959 about two weeks 138 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:19,040 and that's just because there's so much 139 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:22,000 to happen exactly so you said six days 140 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:22,800 worth 141 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:23,840 of weeks 142 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:26,240 yeah we're expecting pretty full days uh 143 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:28,080 six solid days of those operations to 144 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:30,400 get all those things going and uh it's 145 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:31,759 pretty small interfaces that you're 146 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:34,320 operating from the ground here uh up to 147 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:37,120 a robot in space so it's it's a cool 148 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:38,800 factor to the job but it is a 149 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:41,280 complication yeah i think sometimes we 150 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:43,120 make things look so easy because they 151 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:45,120 they go well but so much time and effort 152 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:47,280 goes into that that pre-planning can you 153 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:49,360 tell us a little you know you mentioned 154 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:51,520 the two vehicles traveling and those 155 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:53,759 dynamic operations can you maybe explain 156 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:55,840 for some some folks who can't really 157 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:58,080 appreciate how challenging that might be 158 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:59,840 what really goes into that and when do 159 00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:01,360 you guys really get to breathe a sigh of 160 00:05:05,590 --> 00:05:04,080 relief oh yeah um 161 00:05:07,749 --> 00:05:05,600 from the overall perspective it's 162 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:07,759 definitely a significant rendezvous 163 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,199 problem if nothing else to put these two 164 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:11,600 vehicles in the same space is amazing 165 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:13,360 and i don't know rendezvous very well 166 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:15,199 but i've heard it described as trying to 167 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:17,199 stand in the backyard and throw a tennis 168 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:18,720 ball while somebody in the front yard 169 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:20,000 tries to throw a tennis ball and make 170 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:21,759 them touch just slightly on the way 171 00:05:26,950 --> 00:05:24,639 across so that's always very complicated 172 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:26,960 um as well as doing the constant 173 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:28,639 robotics that we're doing 174 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:30,320 we've built a lot of good techniques 175 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:31,840 over the years with a lot of the ground 176 00:05:35,110 --> 00:05:33,520 control and everything else to make 177 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:35,120 things better but it still is very 178 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:37,360 complicated but in the end we really 179 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:38,880 aren't comfortable until we finally get 180 00:05:42,629 --> 00:05:41,039 to that final release day on htv and we 181 00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:42,639 see the vehicle departing and 182 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:44,639 everything's completed well at that 183 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:46,000 point then we'll be able to relax a 184 00:05:48,710 --> 00:05:47,199 little bit 185 00:05:50,469 --> 00:05:48,720 well we hope that everything continues 186 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:50,479 to go well and why we have you can you 187 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:51,680 just tell us a little bit about your 188 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:53,199 background and what 189 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:54,639 led you to this position that you have 190 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:56,880 now oh it's a bit of a long story but 191 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:59,039 i'll shorten it up uh i've lived in the 192 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:00,880 area in high school and i always kind of 193 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:02,560 wanted to work at nasa so i started in 194 00:06:06,550 --> 00:06:05,039 some early student programs uh an actual 195 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,560 high school program and i transitioned 196 00:06:09,830 --> 00:06:08,560 that into what's called a co-op program 197 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:09,840 when i was in college and even 198 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:12,000 transitioned into graduate co-op so i 199 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:13,520 got a lot of time to see a lot of things 200 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:15,280 going on at johnson space center and 201 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:16,960 ended up liking working in robotics and 202 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:18,960 robotics flight control and have been 203 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:20,960 doing that job for the most part ever 204 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:23,840 since i did a brief stint in a russian 205 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:25,199 support group so i spent some time in 206 00:06:28,710 --> 00:06:26,800 moscow but 207 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:28,720 otherwise it's been great being in 208 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:30,080 robotics 209 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:31,840 well again congratulations on all the 210 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:33,759 activities this weekend and we will all 211 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,280 continue to watch and look forward to 212 00:06:39,909 --> 00:06:37,440 the upcoming activities and um hope that 213 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:39,919 we can have that same relief with you 214 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:41,840 whenever the release happens and all 215 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:43,360 that goes well so thanks so much for 216 00:06:47,909 --> 00:06:45,600 joining us thank you again quincy harp 217 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:47,919 the mission designer as it were for the